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Message No. 10681, Started by ddelaiar on 02/26/03
Here's an interesting dilema I ran into earlier this week:

The sales department was rewarded with a big breakfast and congratulations from the CEO and President due to the fact that they introduced a new product and absolutely ignited the marketplace with it.  While I'm happy for them because their success means my company's success - which leads to my success (financially) - I'm also pissed off.

I worked alongside a sales rep for a few monthes taking the project from concept to production.  While I was not the only one in R&D involved in this project, I helped out a lot.  So, when the product excels, it's Sales that gets the breakfast, pat on the back, and the bonus.  R&D gets squat.

Sometimes I think Sales and Upper Management need to be reminded that R&D doesn't work FOR Sales, they work WITH Sales.

I'm sure I'm not the only engineer to feel this way.  I'm also pretty sure that it's just a "cross you have to bear" as being an engineer.  It just ticks me off when a sleazy sales rep who really doesn't understand the product gets congratulated for selling the product when, in reality, it's your design and the great functionality of the product (all the engineer's doing) that sells it.

Just had to vent....sorry.
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Follow-up Messages (28)
You have a valid point there, ddelaiar.  You might watn to talk to you...
No. 21914, Posted by pfeinstein on 11/17/12, 13:08 PST.
Those who design how technology gets implemented, and those that have to de...
No. 20227, Posted by Adamgilly on 12/28/08, 20:05 PST.
A salesman and an engineer went to spend a weekend in the forest, hunting...
No. 10822, Posted by 1fish2fish on 03/14/03, 19:01 PST.
I'm thinking of the one where you twist your arms into a knot and then grab...
No. 10820, Posted by rolschwarz on 03/14/03, 07:21 PST.
BTW, I've worked out two different solutions to the rope trick. One results...
No. 10818, Posted by rorschach on 03/14/03, 07:16 PST.
Neil, I think you've pretty much nailed the general sentiment of every engi...
No. 10817, Posted by rorschach on 03/14/03, 07:12 PST.
I agree with everybody. Personnally, engineers, with their logically thinki...
No. 10815, Posted by neil moran on 03/14/03, 01:36 PST.
Funny thing about us "math types" is that engineers tend to have better wri...
No. 10813, Posted by rolschwarz on 03/13/03, 18:31 PST.
Yep, you are right, there IS a difference between engineers and the rest of...
No. 10812, Posted by rorschach on 03/13/03, 15:54 PST.
well according to the wonderful company that made me endure a whole day of ...
No. 10811, Posted by spike78 on 03/13/03, 14:07 PST.
Yeah, I don't know what sort of metamorphasis that sort of creature goes th...
No. 10792, Posted by rolschwarz on 03/12/03, 05:39 PST.
then there is the "engineer" (I have yet to find out exactly where he got h...
No. 10788, Posted by rorschach on 03/11/03, 14:44 PST.
and now there's one more
No. 10787, Posted by rolschwarz on 03/11/03, 14:25 PST.
Has anyone compared the number of replies to this message to the other mess...
No. 10781, Posted by gracie on 03/11/03, 13:59 PST.
I just spent the last half-hour teaching a sales-weasel how to type in Exce...
No. 10738, Posted by rolschwarz on 03/04/03, 13:29 PST.
Yes we must tone down our speach and most importantly teach people what the...
No. 10737, Posted by spike78 on 03/04/03, 13:15 PST.
oh yeah, bigtime, its happened to me like a million times. i would sit ther...
No. 10734, Posted by taurusthetenacious on 03/04/03, 07:09 PST.
Actually, he makes a good point about the car salesman. In effect, we en...
No. 10732, Posted by rolschwarz on 03/03/03, 20:56 PST.
that is cruel and unusual......brilliant...lol
No. 10730, Posted by taurusthetenacious on 03/03/03, 14:15 PST.
But if you want to have fun go towards your local car dealer and ask him ab...
No. 10729, Posted by spike78 on 03/03/03, 13:36 PST.
definitely the exception to the rule!
No. 10695, Posted by ddelaiar on 02/27/03, 04:53 PST.
i have to deal with sales people, not in an engineering enviroment but neve...
No. 10692, Posted by xs500 on 02/26/03, 15:43 PST.
there really isn't anything anyone can do.... except keep on projecting ou...
No. 10690, Posted by gerdb on 02/26/03, 15:26 PST.
yeah, but they've gone over to the "dark side".....
No. 10687, Posted by rorschach on 02/26/03, 13:07 PST.
There is hope. Where I work, 2 of the 3 sales people (including the sales ...
No. 10685, Posted by rolschwarz on 02/26/03, 11:34 PST.
hear hear! I agree wholeheartedly with all. what I hate is when the salespe...
No. 10684, Posted by rorschach on 02/26/03, 11:19 PST.
Wise advice from someone who's been there and done that. I guess I'm exper...
No. 10683, Posted by ddelaiar on 02/26/03, 10:46 PST.
Yes, this is something that you have to get used to as an engineer. I ha...
No. 10682, Posted by rolschwarz on 02/26/03, 10:40 PST.
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